Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Jim Hull
Posted by Jim Hull on May 07, 2005 at 24:02:59:
I am a NPL member and I also know Lou Vukas. I don’t know what you are talking about either.
The NPL of this discussion is headquartered in Charlotte, NC. They are not the company you refer to.
If you have the time, read all of my posts to this forum. You may learn something.
Best wishes,
Jim Hull
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by qumungis
Posted by qumungis on May 06, 2005 at 14:53:23:
I’m not here to bash anybody, I’m just here to state facts and find out if anyone can confirm what I have.
I filled out the pre-app and was notified nearly a month later by someone I will leave nameless. The address he/she sent me had NPL as the header and the address provided was:
5984 B Six Forks Road
Raleigh NC 27609
I ended up doing a BBB search just like Jim/James said and found this:
BBB Reliability Report
The Better Business Bureau
Serving Eastern North Carolina
5540 Munford Road, Suite 130
Raleigh, NC 27612
The JGM Group, Corp
6010-B Six Forks Rd
Raleigh, NC 27609
Telephone: (919) 866-1670
Fax: (919) 861-0384
The BBB reports on members and non-members.
Original Business Start Date: July 1999 Incorporated: December 2000, NC
Principal: Employees: 15
Email Address: cs@MoneySolutionsUSA.com File Open Date: December 2000
TOB Classification: Investment Consultants for Home Buying
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.
Additional DBA Names
Money Solutions USA
Money Solutions USA II
Nature Of Business
According to the company, they provide consulting on home buying and investment strategies. The company’s website states:
Money Solutions USA, Inc does not make loans or credit decisions in connection with loans, nor does Money Solutions USA issue commitments or lock-in agreements. Money Solutions USA is not an agent of either you, the consumer, or any participating lender. Money Solutions USA services are administrative, educational and consultative only. You should rely on your own judgment in deciding which available loan product best suits your needs and financial means.
Also, the disclosure section of their website states:
Money Solutions USA has a no refund or cancellation policy.
Customer Experience
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to unanswered complaints concerning refund issues. The Bureau has processed 264 complaints about Money Solutions USA in the last 36 months. One hundred and three of those were processed in the last 12 months. Of all the complaints 238 were responded to by the company, 6 were unresolved and 20 were no response.
Additional File Information
After meeting with the BBB to discuss the complaint activity, the company agreed to revise its sales script and marketing materials to clarify the nature of its offer and to disclose its no refund/no cancellation policy.
Jim/James, I don’t know who you are, but I noticed in March you said you were a Member of NPL, but a month later you say that you are waiting to hear from NPL about membership and telling us to be patient. We have to get some stories straight here. I am still open to NPL, I just want to know what is going on. If you want real estate investors and want to be secretive, why not just open up an exclusive reit? It would be a lot less hassle and more profit. What is the deal with these r. barry’s and L. Varkus (or whatever).
I just want a profitable place to invest, just like everyone else.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Morgan Polotan
Posted by Morgan Polotan on March 16, 2005 at 14:14:14:
Their website is now housingavailable.com, or foreclosureleads.com. Those are different companies. And that BBB report a previous person showed is not of the same company, that is a report for the Connecticutt-based ForeClosureLeads.
npliquidators.com is the RIGHT website!
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by rashaan s
Posted by rashaan s on October 18, 2005 at 13:36:57:
if you are a member have you had a good experience.were you able to find a house,get financing and also gain equity, pls let me know i have been trying to make up my mind.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Arthur Santo
Posted by Arthur Santo on December 28, 2005 at 14:32:36:
Please send me some information in regards to this subject. Thank you for your time and attention.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by RICHARD DAVIS
Posted by RICHARD DAVIS on May 06, 2005 at 17:22:25:
HELLO MY NAME IS RICHARD DAVIS. I HAD JUST RECEVED YOUR LATS WEEKEND NOW SEINCE THEN I HAD FILLED OUT YOUR APPLICATION TO TRY TO SEE IF I QULIFY TO BUY A HOUSE PROGRAM .BUT NO ONE HAS CALLED ME BACK .AND THIS WAS MONDAY SO COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT I HAFT TO DO TO GET THIS PROGHRAM OFF THE GROUND PLEASE .BECOUSE IF I DO NOT HEAR FROM YOU BY THE END OF TODAY I WILL PUT A STOP PAYMENT ON MY CREADIT CARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH RICHARD DAVIS INFO ; 520-466-5352 EMAIL ;scattman@peoplepc.com address p. o. box 805 arizona city AZ
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by James C. Hull
Posted by James C. Hull on March 18, 2005 at 20:51:09:
I have already responded to this inquiry several times at several locations. If you know how to broadcast this response to everyone inquiring about NPL, please do so!
NPL is for REAL! The program is an almost totally passive method for the average person to realize significant wealth through real estate investments.
I am a paid subscribing investor with National Property Liquidators, Inc., headquartered in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Anyone who has some experience in the more “traditional” methods of real estate investment knows that you can easily work yourself to death, seemingly to accomplish little. Yet, you can also gain great wealth. However, you can also lose big if you go forward with no experience, little or no quideance, and very poor planning!
From experience, I had some time ago formulated an idea of the structure and mission of a service that I know now to have been an almost a mirror image of NPL. I wanted someone to do all the “grunt” work for me. It took months of online searching to discover NPL! Now I am glad I took the time to search!
When I investigated NPL many months ago I obtained an excellent report from BBB and the same at D&B. I may have also viewed an FTC certification. Don’t take my word for it. Do some indepth research yourself!
I was also able to obtain some excellent endorsements from existing NPL investors.
NPL has been in business for approximately one decade. The president of NPL is Keith Collins. Their only web site is www.npliquidators.com.
Originally, the business operated as a semi-secret real estate concierge service. Investor membership was only through the invitation of members. The membership fee was $5,900. This included several days of required training in Charlotte, transportation not included. NPL still operates like a quasi semi-secret organization.
If you visit the NPL web site, you will notice that there is no way to communicate with NPL, except to submit a loan application for yourself and (if need be) a co-investor. If you were to do so, you would receive an almost immediate email response that would state that you could not be found on NPL’s roll of subscribing investors. Whether you would be directed to a vendor or some other member, I do not know.
To the best of my knowledge, NPL has never attempted direct marketing of their program. Also, I strongly doubt that anyone has ever received SPAM or any other solicitation from NPL.
However, (apparently sometime late last year) NPL elected to expand their investor base by entering into agreements with some of their investors to promote NPL memberships to clients. Let’s now call them NPL vendors. I wonder if perhaps NPL is not now regreting their decision.
I suspect that few (if any) of these investors (now NPL vendors) ever had any valid experience in online marketing and they rushed into it with every sales method someone else told them would work, including SPAM and unsolicited fax blasts.
In today’s world, it is also quite likely that there is some fraudulent marketing in NPL’s name. It also likely that some are mere wannabes, trying to raise funds for their own purposes.
These authorized vendors are required (by NPL) to provide the future NPL investor client with a minimum of training which is supposed to include NPL practices, procedures, and investor qualifications, etc. The training may be on any medium ? printed, tape, CD’s, what have you. If you purchase the training from the vendor, you become enrolled in NPL.
Each vendor is authorized to enroll several hundred investors. Why so many? I do not know what NPL’s attrition rate is, but I am certain it exists. Also, in direct marketing, it is known that a large, but undetermined number of enrollees will do nothing. Furthermore, many enrollees will learn that they cannot invest even through NPL because of their credit ratings, and they do not have the knowledge which would permit them to solve the problem. Consequently, with a large number of very excellent properties in inventory around the U.S., NPL must maintain an adequate investor base.
Out of curiosity I recently obtained a set of tapes from one vendor. In fact, it is the only vendor that I know of who is (in fact) an NPL authorized vendor. There are undoubtedly others ? I just don’t know who they are.
In doing so, I created a second membership in NPL. $197 bought me 16 tapes, each 45 minutes in length, containing every possible “traditional” and non-traditional method of real estate investing: finding, buying (including no money down), etc., etc. Anything you have ever heard or seen on the TV real estate infomercials is on those tapes. But, there is absolutely nothing on them about NPL!
However, purchasing the “training” (in whatever form) from a vendor is a very inexpensive way to get into NPL, which I do recommend!
I can only positively identify one of the authorized vendors. I have no knowledge of the content or value of the “training” that you might receive from any of the others.
If you actually listened carefully to all the tapes, you would certainly come to appreciate immensely what NPL does for you! There is nothing traditional nor difficult about the NPL program!
I will say this though ? I have seen a bit of the advertising and found (to my surprise) that much of what was said about the benefits of investing in real estate through NPL’s services is very true!
So there you are.
I am certainly not a real estate expert nor am I a spokesman for NPL. But I am a very pleased NPL investor and have some very pleased co-investors.
However, if I can answer any questions for anyone, I shall attempt to do so. I just realized that I may well have just opened a flood gate. But, I reserve the right to refuse to answer any particular question.
I would suggest that you all visit the NPL web site given above. Visit each page (click on each in the left sidebar). What you see and read there is absolutely true!
I am certain that the web site was never intended to provide complete details about NPL operations. Yet there are considerations and conditions that are understated and even unstated in the site, and of which the future invesor should be aware of. At least, that is my personal opinion.
Whether the following should in fact be presented to a viewer of the site, I cannot say. But I suggest that the following information should be available to a would-be member investor before they make a decision to join NPL.
This includes a more realistic investor profile, possible variations in the life and terms of the the renter’s lease/purchase agreement and, potential risks (which are minimal, but exist none-the-less).
O.K. So email me. I’ll do my best.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by RICHARD DAVIS
Posted by RICHARD DAVIS on May 25, 2005 at 10:50:44:
HELLO ; MY NAME IS RICHARD DAVIS I HAVE BEEN VERY PATCHENT IN WAITING FOR YOUR PHONE CALL. AND I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOUR . SO AT THIS POINT DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE MONEY OUT OF MY ACCOUNT .BECOUSE SENCE YOU CAN NOT CALL ME BACK . WELL THAT IS IT THANK YOU
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by qumungis
Posted by qumungis on May 06, 2005 at 14:43:11:
I’m not here to bash anybody, I’m just here to state facts and find out if anyone can confirm what I have.
I filled out the pre-app and was notified nearly a month later by someone I will leave nameless. The address he/she sent me had NPL as the header and the address provided was:
5984 B Six Forks Road
Raleigh NC 27609
I ended up doing a BBB search just like Jim/James said and found this:
BBB Reliability Report
The Better Business Bureau
Serving Eastern North Carolina
5540 Munford Road, Suite 130
Raleigh, NC 27612
The JGM Group, Corp
6010-B Six Forks Rd
Raleigh, NC 27609
Telephone: (919) 866-1670
Fax: (919) 861-0384
The BBB reports on members and non-members.
Original Business Start Date: July 1999 Incorporated: December 2000, NC
Principal: Employees: 15
Email Address: cs@MoneySolutionsUSA.com File Open Date: December 2000
TOB Classification: Investment Consultants for Home Buying
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.
Additional DBA Names
Money Solutions USA
Money Solutions USA II
Nature Of Business
According to the company, they provide consulting on home buying and investment strategies. The company’s website states:
Money Solutions USA, Inc does not make loans or credit decisions in connection with loans, nor does Money Solutions USA issue commitments or lock-in agreements. Money Solutions USA is not an agent of either you, the consumer, or any participating lender. Money Solutions USA services are administrative, educational and consultative only. You should rely on your own judgment in deciding which available loan product best suits your needs and financial means.
Also, the disclosure section of their website states:
Money Solutions USA has a no refund or cancellation policy.
Customer Experience
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to unanswered complaints concerning refund issues. The Bureau has processed 264 complaints about Money Solutions USA in the last 36 months. One hundred and three of those were processed in the last 12 months. Of all the complaints 238 were responded to by the company, 6 were unresolved and 20 were no response.
Additional File Information
After meeting with the BBB to discuss the complaint activity, the company agreed to revise its sales script and marketing materials to clarify the nature of its offer and to disclose its no refund/no cancellation policy.
Jim/James, I don’t know who you are, but I noticed in March you said you were a Member of NPL, but a month later you say that you are waiting to hear from NPL about membership and telling us to be patient. We have to get some stories straight here. I am still open to NPL, I just want to know what is going on. If you want real estate investors and want to be secretive, why not just open up an exclusive reit? It would be a lot less hassle and more profit. What is the deal with these r. barry’s and L. Varkus (or whatever).
I just want a profitable place to invest, just like everyone else.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Todd Gibbons
Posted by Todd Gibbons on March 31, 2005 at 09:43:45:
I have two quick questions.
I was approached by a vendor who claims the inside track to NP, and NPL making available to his members millions of dollars worth of new homes. In turn, buy his real estate CDs on other types of investment properties and he’ll give you the information to contact NPL. The guy’s name is Robert Barry. Wants $295 for his course. Ever heard of him?
By what avenue did you join NPL? Was it direct or indirect and how do you talk to other investors?
Thanks
Todd
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Walter
Posted by Walter on March 31, 2005 at 24:43:23:
You mentioned a vendor in whom you had confidence, would you pass that name along?
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by David Medina
Posted by David Medina on March 27, 2005 at 11:56:30:
I submitted my application about 10 days ago and have not received any response from NPL. Do you have a phone number or email address for NPL? I would like to contact them so I can get started with their program.
Thanks,
David
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Vicki Henderson
Posted by Vicki Henderson on November 15, 2005 at 16:19:45:
I called Charlotte, North Carolina which where they are suppose to be, the operator has no listing and the Better Business Bureau has nothing on them.
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Jim Hull
Posted by Jim Hull on March 31, 2005 at 23:22:33:
I assume that when you say you have submitted an application, you mean that you completed the Pre-App and either faxed it to NPL or completed the online Pre-App and submitted it.
I suspect that NPL is somewhat overwhelmed by the volume of new members. I know of others who have waited 30 days without response.
I would suggest that you wait 30 days and if no response by then, fax an inquiry to them. The NPL fax number can be found at the bottom of the Pre-App which accompanied the NPL info received with the training materials.
Jim Hull
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Jim Hull
Posted by Jim Hull on April 04, 2005 at 14:33:14:
To everyone I can only say, be patient!
I have received numerous personal email inquiries from CREOnline respondents about the apparent NPL silence. I too am awaiting an NPL response.
I have been in contact with other NPL investors and with a trusted vendor (who is also a NPL investor). We have all come to the same conclusion. Keep in mind ? this is all supposition on our part, but I think it is reasonable to assume ? the response to the NPL membership offer has been overwhelming and currently exceeds the property inventory!
An “insider” suggests to me that while NPL concentrates on building the inventory of suitable new properties, they will manage the inventory list on a “first come, first served” basis. I suspect that existing member investors will not be restricted in their access to the inventory. Therefore, new applicants should expect extended delays. No one can predict how long it will take to resolve the inventory shortage.
I know that many new applicants submitted Pre-Apps more than 30 days ago. Again I say ? please be patient!
Jim Hull
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Gary Veith
Posted by Gary Veith on April 27, 2005 at 23:06:08:
How can I get on there list? What is there contact info and how can I apply?
Re: What is N.P.L National property liquidators - Posted by Jeff Pratt
Posted by Jeff Pratt on April 14, 2005 at 09:43:50:
Jim,
It’s my understanding that NPL is selling the concept that they find the house for you to invest in then find a tenant to lease to own for you to eventually make a profit. If they have a contract with the builders to sell their homes, why don’t they just skip the investor and just do a lease to own themself’s since the goal is to get the property sold? This just sounds too good to be true. Is it that they just want to profit on the membership fee?
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