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Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by Joe
Posted by Joe on June 30, 2005 at 16:55:22:
I was just curious what you all think about the Rich Dad Poor Dad books/program?
I found someone locally who is a claims he’s a mentor, and pushes the Rich Dad Poor Dad stuff. I do plan on talking to him to see what he has to offer, however his website only had 1 single family property on it. (However, for all I know he has 900 rental properties hes NOT selling… doubt it though 
)
Anyways, just lookin’ for some feedback to hear what people have to say!
Thanks!
–Joe
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by John Sheridan
Posted by John Sheridan on July 01, 2005 at 16:33:28:
Kiosaki just makes money selling books. For the definitive review of RDPD, see
Typical hokum from a world class bullshooter. - Posted by Mr. Big
Posted by Mr. Big on July 01, 2005 at 16:16:56:
It reads well and gets people pumped up, but anyone who knows anything about investing can tell Kiyosaki doesn’t know anything. He is at the kindergarten level. If you try to actually follow anything he says you will get hurt badly.
This goes for his team of “experts” too. Picked for superficial charm, not substance.
You can take the advice of the cheerleaders or you can take the advice of the winning players. Who do you think knows more about playing the game?
To show you I am not all negativity, here is the book I highly recommend as being by a genuine expert, full of good advice and wisdom, and definitely worth buying even if you have to pay full list price - something I can’t say about any other book or course.
The book is Trump Strategies For Real Estate by George H. Ross.
He is the guy who is responsible for Trump’s success.
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by Mike (Seattle WA)
Posted by Mike (Seattle WA) on July 01, 2005 at 10:09:33:
RD/PD, Cashflow, and this website are what got me started investing. Can’t say much more positive than that…
Love it! - Posted by michaela-ATL
Posted by michaela-ATL on July 01, 2005 at 06:52:13:
Read RD-PD a couple of years ago and loved it. The book is really not so much about the nuts and bolts of investing, but about attitude, mindset, creativity etc.
And those things are important, if you want to be more than just a small time investor.
Michaela
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by IB (NJ)
Posted by IB (NJ) on June 30, 2005 at 23:00:48:
I personally think he’a a genius for how he has marketed his information and used to it expose our fraudulent public education system (how do you not teach kids capitalism in a country who’s economic system is based on it?). I also love the boardgame.
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by dealmaker
Posted by dealmaker on June 30, 2005 at 21:08:08:
IMO the author of RD/PD is mostly full of sh**. The first thing of his that I read he made a statement to the effect that “this was being seller financed, so I had to sell it below market”. BS, if I’m seller financing (which is how I sell ALL of my properties, I’m selling ABOVE market.
I didnt’ bother to read any further. I’ve never met a guru smarter than me, not saying they don’t exist, just doubt it.
Getting a “mentor” or subscribing to a guru, WILL NOT GET YOU OFF YOUR BUTT AND DOING DEALS. 99% of the wannabes end up as neverweres because they won’t get off their butts. Anything a guru or mentor can tell you you can find out here.
dealmaker
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by nancy wu
Posted by nancy wu on June 30, 2005 at 18:09:23:
If I have 900 rentals, I’m not borthered to be a mentor. I’ll sit in my back yard enjoy the cash flow or busy suppervising my property managers…
ask him for the proof…
Ugh… - Posted by Hank FL
Posted by Hank FL on July 02, 2005 at 07:50:58:
Why’d you have to bring up a guy that has no clue.
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by Skip
Posted by Skip on July 01, 2005 at 19:47:29:
My problem with Kiyosaki is that he’s a big liar. Even before I read JTR’s review I could tell that a lot of what he said was untrue. His rich dad and poor dad, his education, his military service, the properties he owns, the businesses he started and took public … how can you believe anything he says?
Also, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I do like his theory of assets and liabilities, but apparently he stole that from seminar he attended (what a shock).
Re: Typical hokum from a world class bullshooter. - Posted by Chuck Rosenberg
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Re: Typical hokum from a world class bullshooter. - Posted by IB (NJ)
Posted by IB (NJ) on July 01, 2005 at 21:37:53:
and it shows in your first line:
“It reads well and gets people pumped up, but anyone who knows anything about investing can tell Kiyosaki doesn’t know anything.”
The problem is that most folks don’t really know anything about investing except what their stock broker told them. Many folks know nothing at all about investing. Kiyosaki is perfect for these people. He’s probably not for the savvy investor like you obviously are. But please don’t think that the world is as knowledgeable as you because they’re not.
I agree that his books aren’t too specific and are really just a start. But have you ever played his boardgame Cashflow 101? It gets more specific regarding an investment plan.
Re: Love it! - Posted by Lee Gartner
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Re: Love it! - Posted by docniss
Posted by docniss on July 01, 2005 at 09:36:01:
Check out the other RD books if you liked the first, I have read most of them, just finished with Smart Kid Rich Kid great info. Also a lot of his advisors have writted books that have a wealth of info on legal issues, setting up corps and LLC etc and acounting info. I set up my LLC through the co. of one of his advisors…Gary Sutton. It was fast and painless.
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Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by Gene
Posted by Gene on July 01, 2005 at 01:48:37:
I agree. His core concepts are right on.
Most people need a shift in mentality to be sucessfull in investing (and life in general). RD/PD can help people with this.
Invest in assets…not liabilities.
So simple but so often broken.
Gene
Yeh, I sat in the back yard … - Posted by Frank Chin
Posted by Frank Chin on July 01, 2005 at 10:04:00:
Nancy:
Not necessarily true.
I attended “Real Estate School”, and one professor was said to have been a shrewed investor, and made millions through the years. No one beleived him because someone like that should be sitting in his back yard as you said.
And the way the course was run, it was "ask any question on doing a RE deal, and he’ll bring in a deal he has done, from the “setup”, to paperwork on the final sale, to illustrate. The only thing is names are “blacked out” on recent transactions, and not on ones exceeding five years.
Still there were doubts since stuff can be made up.
Finally, I saw a large plaque hanging in the lobby of the “Real Estate School”, (part of New York University) listing the “benefactors” who each contributed $1 million or more to establish the school. His name was on it.
So I mentioned it, and then people started beleiving that maybe the guy was the real deal.
And there was a deal where he was supposed to be in the middle of, and make $1.1 million when completed. It was several blocks from the school, and he said students can go by take a look if they want.
So why isn’t he sitting in his back yard?? He was actually asked that and he replied that "he lives in a “rent stabilzed apartment, and it doesn’t have a yard”. When the class was over the shock of it, he said “my purpose in life is the make the best RE deal. And I think living somewhere paying below market rent is one of them”.
Also, I myself made enough in RE to have a half way decent income, but I bought a business a few years ago.
After the first six months watching TV at home, I started watching “Jerry Springer” re-runs. The wife finally told me to walk to the park each morning, read the paper and come home.
Then, when my memory, which was sharp, started slipping, I decided I better get something to do. In fact, I thought breifly about teaching school.
So, it’s not all a bed of roses sitting in the back yard. Been there, done that.
Frank Chin
Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad? - Posted by Joe
Posted by Joe on June 30, 2005 at 20:36:09:
He never claimed to have 900 properties… I just said that cuz he only had 1 on his web site (not real impressive) … I was just tryin’ to say that he MIGHT have more than it appears.
Either way, I’m skeptical… Next week I’ll probably give him a call… Talk to him about his experiance/properties he has bought/sold/etc…
Just kinda wanted to get an idea what you all thought of the whole Rich Dad Poor Dad “system”…
–Joe
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