Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Tony D

Posted by BTI on August 24, 2006 at 23:33:20:

Mark

OK, today is thursday, I’ll expect you to be a licensed california real estate agent by Monday. It should be a cinch because you said so plus I expect you know 100 times more than the other applicants starting today.

Oh, can’t do it, better stick with your investors license. Not familiar with an investors license, thats ok, anyone can get one by investing five minutes of your time thinking about being an investor and then declaring I’m an investor, I’m an investor, I’m an investor.

BTI

Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Tony D

Posted by Tony D on August 22, 2006 at 13:21:24:

I was told that banks will not work directly with investors to complete a short sale on a property without going through a realtor. IS THIS TRUE!

I was also told that due to the credibility of working with realtors directly made them more likely to work something out. I am not a realtor and wish to enter the preforeclosure market targeting homeowners in preforeclosure.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Frank Chin

Posted by Frank Chin on August 22, 2006 at 17:54:28:

Tony:

More and more banks are going thru realtors. There are several reasons for this.

First, if they do it in house, they’ll need people with expertise on the matter, and the work load goes up and down depending on the economy, meaning they may have to hire tons or people at certain times or let them go at others. Using realtors is for the lack of a better term “outsourcing”.

Secondly, having a realtor adds a level of control. Having everything done “in house” may result in “corruption” where employees on the take can approve your short sale package for a cash bribe. If it’s done entirely in house, is bank management going to take “your word” on what the worth is as passed thru your “freind” (with his hands properly greased) at the bank??

There are many things that appeared to be quirks done at banks, where for instance, employees are required to take two week vacations, as a control. A friend of mine always resented this rule till a fellow employee was exposed for embezzlement because the fella had to take the two weeks off, and other employees covering for him discovered the theft.

If all approvals are done at the bank, and you submitted a package saying the FMV of a property is 200K, how hard would it be for the in house banker to tell you, for a 10K cash payment to me, lower it to 175K, and I’ll approve it.

How do I know this??

A friend of my wife’s took over the top job of a finance company, and hired her as the number two. I was curious why two top openings came up at once.

I asked and was told that the previous two guys were arrested, and subsequently jailed for taking cash bribes to approve loans, and taking bribes not to file security doceuments on secured loans. That enables the borrower to secure another secured loan elsewhere with the same collateral.

This came into the open when the borrowers never paid the loans, about several million dollars each, but it turned out the bribed officials at at least a dozen other banks with the same deal, and the affected banks reads like the who’s who of banking. In other words, they used the same collateral to secure loans a dozen times over that they never paid.

BTW, the perpetrators were part of the Banano crime family.

If you were top management at these banks, would you trust these guys working for you making deals?? Scary, heh??

Frank Chin

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by NJDave

Posted by NJDave on August 22, 2006 at 14:10:15:

More and more loan servicers will request the property be listed with a real estate broker as a criteria for short sale consideration. Especially FHA insured loans. The purpose is two fold. Yes, having a real estate broker (not necessarily a Realtor) involved seems to add credibility and professionalism to the process… but as we know, this isn’t necessarily true.
The second reason is to assure the property is priced properly, and exposed to the market. Again, simply haveing a broker involved doesn’t assure proper price or competent marketing.

But that’s what the lender would like to see.

I haven’t found this requirement an obstacle. I work about 50% of my preforeclosure shorts thru licensed brokers.

Will the lender communicate with you even if you are NOT the listing broker? Sure. As long as the mortgagor has provided the mortgagee with written permission to speak with you.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Tom Brown

Posted by Tom Brown on August 22, 2006 at 13:55:57:

Let me guess. The person that told you this was a Realtor.

That is total BS.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Tony D

Posted by Tony D on August 22, 2006 at 14:04:54:

Yes it was a realtor and he is also an investor as well so I am surprised to here your response. Maybe it is because you could consider him my competetion in my local market.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Tom Brown

Posted by Tom Brown on August 22, 2006 at 15:15:39:

No. It was because what he told you is total crap, plain and simple.

I talk to loss mitigation all the time.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Mark (SDCA)

Posted by Mark (SDCA) on August 22, 2006 at 14:55:41:

More likely, it is because realtors are often (BADLY) misinformed- about even the most basic RE details.

In Cali, you can get your license over the weekend so…

I have had a realtor tell me it was illegal for me to fill out my own offer form.

I have had another realtor tell me that she (the listing agent) could not present an offer to the seller unless I was represented by a (different) realtor.

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by BTI

Posted by BTI on August 23, 2006 at 11:42:14:

Mark

Get real, “in Cali you can get your license over the weekend”, maybe an investors license but not a real estate license. And yes I’ve had dummy agents tell me things that some other dummy agent told them. But I’ve never really minded, I got a lot of free meals as the result of a friendly bet.

BTI

Re: Working with Loss Mitigation Departments - Posted by Mark (SDCA)

Posted by Mark (SDCA) on August 23, 2006 at 12:52:12:

What in the world is an “investors license”? A license to buy property in my own name? Does any state even offer that? Maybe a general biz license.

Here is the link to the real estate SALESMAN (not broker) license requirements. Pass 3 courses (which can be done ONLINE) and pass a 3 hour 15 minute (or less) test.