Russ Dalbey and John Beck??? - Posted by Devin

Posted by Earl Norm on February 04, 2003 at 19:37:14:

Could you please tell me which companies have the quality mentoring service that you are recommending?

Thank you


Russ Dalbey and John Beck??? - Posted by Devin

Posted by Devin on March 08, 2002 at 12:21:03:

I had a wierd phone call yesterday. I recently purchased the Russ Dalbey note course. I get a phone call from someone saying they were with John Beck, Inc. and asking if I had reviewed the course I recently purchased.

He went into his speach that they are planning a new infomercial and wanted to “help” some newbies with the course so they could have them appear in a new informercial as a ‘success story’. They wanted to work with you 8-10 hours a week.

I said no thanks because I figured they would be charging me for it somewhere along the line, but it wasn’t until I hung up that it dawned on me he said he was from John Beck’s company and the course I had ordered was Russ Dalbey’s course. Are they connected in some way? Is Russ selling our names and telephone numbers?

Anyone know what the deal is?


Same marketing company - Posted by John Behle

Posted by John Behle on March 08, 2002 at 22:58:40:

I think Russ and John market with the same marketing company. They were looking hard for a “paper” course to market. “Genesis” is their name. They called me and were pushing hard, but I turned them down because of their reputation. I think they struck a deal with Russ Dalbey.

So, your lead from buying the Dalbey course ends up in the same office with the same group of marketers.

Re: Same marketing company - Posted by Devin

Posted by Devin on March 09, 2002 at 16:07:46:

Thanks John, I figured as much. So, was I correct in thinking that I would have to pay for this mentoring at some point or do you think they were really offering a free service?

Their area code was 801, in Utah, and when I called the number back because the first tinme they called it showed up as a missed call on my cell phone, the woman who answered the phone said it was a switchboard.

Re: Same marketing company - Posted by John Behle

Posted by John Behle on March 09, 2002 at 21:34:23:

There seems to be a new sales pitch out about being on people’s infomercials, etc. I’ve heard of several using it. Most of those pitches are just that - a pitch and never end up being free. The way most of the pitches out there work is to get someone to call in - in hopes they “qualify” or whatever. In most cases the infomercials, free or cheap seminars, etc. are just a “loss leader” and “lead generator”. Buy a book for several dollars and get a highly trained high pressure sales pitch for several thousand. Sadly most of the mentor programs are with poorly trained, poorly paid kids that have never been involved with the business. Most hope that you don’t call or use the service once you’ve paid for it.

There are a few mentor services out there where there actually is a quality product - but very few.