Posted by Curt Dalton on January 03, 2003 at 14:07:26:
What’s your articulation? That Ron became an employee for the tax breaks? Legal standing? Is that why he let some corporate type march him out of his own office? LOL. Heck, you probably didn’t even know about Pena, IMH or the rest.
Go back to worshipping at his altar. He’s got some more drivel coming soon from his new company—unless the copyright and trademark attorneys stop him first.
I’m dismissed.
Ron Legrand - Posted by FRANKLIN
Posted by FRANKLIN on December 30, 2002 at 22:02:34:
Has anyone attend Ron Legrand seminar on Short Sales… www.ronlegrand.com, was it worth the money, any comments or opinions of the seminar…
Great Success… Franklin
Ron Legrand goes to NATIONWIDE !!! - Posted by Bob
Posted by Bob on December 31, 2002 at 15:52:18:
US Land Co is another name for Nationwide. Why would LeGrand hook up with this kind of outfit?
Re: Ron Legrand - Posted by Bob in Indy
Posted by Bob in Indy on December 31, 2002 at 10:30:00:
This is a new course…not offered before.
Re: Ron Legrand goes to NATIONWIDE !!! - Posted by ronald rye
Posted by ronald rye on December 31, 2002 at 16:32:07:
I don’t know about this Nationwide thing. I’ve never heard of their affiliation with the US Land Company? What have you heard?
A Bigger Question… - Posted by Curt Dalton
Posted by Curt Dalton on December 31, 2002 at 16:11:09:
Why would Ron LeGrand sell his company in the first place and become an employee when all he does is tout how his materials allow you to “fire your boss” and be your own boss? Pretty hypocritical to me.
My Conversation with Ron Legrand - Posted by ronald rye
Posted by ronald rye on December 31, 2002 at 11:26:03:
I talked to Ron’s secetary about this whole ordeal. For those of you who don’t know Ron has quit SDI. Apparantly Ron has partnered with the US Land Company website to start offering new bootcamps taught by him. I talked to the US Land Co site and they told me that a brand new series of bootcamps and training series are being produced starting with the short sale bootcamp which they say is very good. I think they’re going to be in Florida, Georgia and Arizona next month. Ron has also posted a letter on their discussion board describing why he quit SDI. You can read it for yourself if you’re as stunned as I was at www.globalpubinc.com
Hope this clears things up.
ronald rye
Hypocritical vs. A Good Business Structure - Posted by Barbara_NY
Posted by Barbara_NY on January 02, 2003 at 21:28:59:
Ron’s choice to be an employee of a corporation he is a shareholder of is an intelligent business structure for financial planning. Just like the Land Trust shields your property from being attached if a law suit is brought against you as an individual, being an employee is an excellent financial plan for you to take advantage of all the corporate benefits while keeping your personal tax base low.
For those of us lucky enough to see Ron speak at a multiple events and/or work directly with him thorough his mentoring programs, Ron has always been open about the advantages of this type of structure. As well, Ron isn’t the only guru to recommend this and other similar structures.
Hope that clears up the situation…
Re: A Bigger Question… - Posted by bob
Posted by bob on January 01, 2003 at 13:02:19:
$how Me the MONEY… That’s why$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Re: My Conversation with Ron Legrand - Posted by Steve
Posted by Steve on December 31, 2002 at 18:50:27:
What. Oh my gosh, you guys are killing me. Ron LeGrand’s short sale has never been given yet and is being sponsored by Global Publishing who’s site is globalpublishinginc.com. I have been working with Ron on a dailey basis and am the one who posted his statement for him at ronlegrand.com I’m posting this because I think a few stories are getting twisted and so everyone will know where to get the real truth at his site. I hope this will help with the confusion 
Re:Ron Legrand GONE - Posted by j me
Posted by j me on December 31, 2002 at 12:26:28:
Information Concerning Recent Departure
By Ron LeGrand From SDI
For over 14 years I’ve been teaching folks how to secure financial freedom through real estate. It began with my first company called The LeGrand Group. It 1995 it became part of Success Development International, which was merged into International Media Holdings in 1998, as it became a public company.
In 1995, I gave up a major portion of my company in the hope of creating a much larger company and taking it public. In 1998 I gave up controlling interest with the intent of merging and making the public offering liquid for both the company and myself.
Since then I’ve been an employee and spokesperson working to increase the value of IMH for the shareholders while continuing to spread my message of financial freedom to all who chose to listen.
However, my ideas and management style of how the company should be run is not aligned with the CEO David Reecher. This disparity existed since he and his companies merged with SDI in 1998 and when Mr. Reecher acquired ownership interest almost identical to mine.
It became obvious to me the original objectives which prompted me to give away 75% of my company over the years were never going to be achieved. In that light, I made Mr. Reecher an offer to buy him out. My offer was very similar to the offer the company had just approved to buy out another major shareholder who held approximately 27% ownership. Mr. Reecher refused my offer.
On November 29th, my attorney sent the company a notice of non renewal of my employment and speaking agreements which was effective 12/31/02. On December 16th, I was greeted at the door of SDI by the management team and a policeman and therewith escorted from the building. The same morning I was served with a lawsuit alleging several unfounded accusations.
Unfortunately for all concerned this action and my ensuing lawsuit will lead to a long battle, one of which I am convinced I will be the prevailing party.
In that light, I no longer work for or am associated with SDI or any of its related companies, which includes its seminars, Bootcamps, conventions, newsletter, PPN network or coaching on rebate certificates granted numerous students within the past 60 days.
I appreciate all the numerous calls and letters of support received to date. It’s been a real honor to work with all the great customers and associates over the years. You’ve taught me much more than I’ve ever taught you. The SDI chapter may be over but the book is a long way from finished.
Good Chuckle… - Posted by Curt Dalton
Posted by Curt Dalton on January 03, 2003 at 10:18:30:
If you believe that crapola, I got some war zone properties you’d just love to buy!
Give me a break, here. Ron sold his interest in SDI to Dan Pena’s IMH at an extremely LARGE profit on the condition that he (or other stockholders in SDI-then a PRIVATE corporation)could not sell their new stock in the parent company for several years.
If Ron was REALLY in control at SDI as you suggest, why did he have to resign? And why was he the one forcefully removed from the premises? Hmmm…seems to me if you run the show, you’re the one doing the throwing out. Why is he being forced to open up a new company if, as you say, his becoming an employee was only for “intelligent business structure for financial planning” or some other syrupy BS spin? Seems to me under your scenario he’d still have control of the company, right? That doesn’t appear to be the case as I see it.
Get your facts straight; Ronnie baby did what millions of people would do: he went straight for the cashola. While he got the cash, he lost his power and control at SDI. These things are the consequences of selling your company to another. Unfortunately, that move has bitten him in the butt now, and he’s going to have to start from scratch again. Should be interesting to see how the copyright and trademark lawyers handle this w/ his new company.
I’m not saying Ron’s a bad man; I have his material and have been to his bootcamps. I felt I got a good bang for my buck too. But I also think one should practice what you preach. And when you preach that RE investing is the key to financial independence and being able to be your own boss, it would be nice if the speaker followed those words himself.
As for your land trust analogy, I’ll leave that alone. Lets just say I could carve that up in a deposition faster than you could create it.
Re:Ron Legrand GONE - Posted by lucy
Posted by lucy on December 31, 2002 at 12:37:46:
Poor baby, will we be able to survive without Ron ANd Sdi ripping us off anymore? I just don’t know…
Re: Good Chuckle… - Posted by Barbara_NY
Posted by Barbara_NY on January 03, 2003 at 10:34:17:
Guess you know it all, eh? Well, glad to see you’re confident in your ignorance. I choose to stay open minded and support those who have supported me.
We all face challenges in this world, many of which are brought upon us without any wrongdoing on our part. Those who choose to debate that concept may have never experienced it, and thus not be able or willing to accept its existence. Sure, Ron made his share of money, and that’s what we all aspire to. However, that does not excuse the misconduct and misguided handling of this matter by IMH. And is surely doesn’t reflect Ron’s not practicing what he preaches.
Obviously we disagree. So be it. Good luck to you in your future business dealings and let’s hope the “chuckle” is never on you.
Please expand on your statement - Posted by Barbara_NY
Posted by Barbara_NY on January 02, 2003 at 21:17:14:
You think Ron has been ripping people off or just SDI, or both? How so?
I have been involved with Ron and other of his long time business associates for several years and found him and his goals quite honorable and above board. I’m curious upon what you are basing your comments.
Please advise and thanks in advance…
Re: Good Chuckle… - Posted by Curt Dalton
Posted by Curt Dalton on January 03, 2003 at 11:05:04:
I never said I knew it all-but I do know enough of SDI’s recent history to know your first post was incorrect. Corporate or entity structuring was FAR from the reason Ron became an “employee” of IMH. Lets get that straight. It’s a shame you can’t articulate your position well enough and have to resort to name calling.
I neither faulted Ron nor IMH for how things terminated between them. I merely commented that as a consequence of his selling his company he lost control of his business operations. How he conducts his business is his business, not mine. I could care less. Good luck to him if he made a good buck on selling the company.
My beef was w/ his marketing message and not following it in his own life. If the game plan is to make as much as money as possible wherever or however and REI is one way to do that, then he should say that. Stop the marketing pitches which say alot different.
I’m happy you’ve prospered using his techniques; I have as well. But spin is spin and Ron has done plenty of that.
Let’s agree to disagree and simply let it be… - Posted by Barbara_NY
Posted by Barbara_NY on January 03, 2003 at 11:34:32:
I am confident in my articulation. Your comments to the contrary are noted and dismissed.
If you wish to discuss the matter further you will find a worthy opponent in the closest mirror. As for me, I’m done. I’ve said what I set out to and believe any further discussion would not serve either of our original points of view.
Regards,