Problem Renters with NO CONTRACT - Posted by Trent(MS)

Posted by Sean on November 03, 2003 at 14:16:30:

If they didn’t sign a lease, they are from my understanding automatically in a MONTH TO MONTH rental situation which means you can kick them out in 30 days at any time… if they are being a pain already, I’d advise just evicting them and learning from the experience rather than trying to get a lease… and have to deal with them ignoring it for another year anyway.

Since no lease just need to give them 30 days notice to begone… if they refuse to leave you must remove them forceably by your states eviction process… which varies from state to state and can take anywhere from a few days to 6 weeks or so.

Problem Renters with NO CONTRACT - Posted by Trent(MS)

Posted by Trent(MS) on November 03, 2003 at 13:50:40:

I am having a problem with renters in my first rental house…I did not get them to sign a rental agreement(imaidiot)…They have pets in the house, two families and the place looks like crap with junk everywhere…Oh yeah dont forget the two junker cars they have drug into the yard…I guess what I am trying to ask is, is it to late to make them to sign a contract since they have been living in the home for 3 months…Also what are my options if I want to boot’em…

Thanks in advance,

Re: Problem Renters with NO CONTRACT - Posted by roger

Posted by roger on November 03, 2003 at 23:37:55:

give them notice to move, tell them you are going to remodel the house and it can’t be done with tenets in the house plus let them know you rented to one family not 2 and this is a volation of the housing codes if these are big families and the bedroom and house is to small for codes
once they are out do some minor repairs to the inside (paint or whatever)make sure your new tennets sign a air tight lease hopefully one which will let you get them out if they distroy the property without going thru he!! to do it,good luck

get them out!!! - Posted by Jim (MD)

Posted by Jim (MD) on November 03, 2003 at 23:08:48:

The others gave great advice. I am posting because as your first rental you might have thoughts that you can reform these people by having them sign a lease and bringing them up to your standards. Perish the thought!! You are a landlord, not a social worker; and you will never succeed as a landlord if you try to be a social worker.

Check with a RE attorney for your options and if necessary make excuses to get them out and stick with it. After they are out, clean up the place, screen prospective tenants carefully, and use an airtight lease.

Good luck.

Re: Problem Renters with NO CONTRACT - Posted by wpage

Posted by wpage on November 03, 2003 at 20:23:15:

Trent Lessons are sometimes learned the hard way. This is an experience that you and all those trusting people in the Re business should never repeat. We have all paid over the years for our experience. I have lost thousands of dollars over the years by being too trusting. Today nobody gets in my houses or apartments until they sign a lease and pay the first months rent in cash. If they don’t pay the rent on time I start eviction. No more chances for any deadbeat tenant. There isn’t a story that I haven’t heard. They always have a reason why they can’t pay. Now they pay or they go. I would evict. good luck wpage

Re: Problem Renters with NO CONTRACT - Posted by Brent_IL

Posted by Brent_IL on November 03, 2003 at 14:18:33:

They are on what’s called a month-to-month tenancy. You can give notice that you want the property back. Different jurisdictions have different assumptions. Check your state and local laws to find out the type and the timing of the required notices. You may have to evict if they don?t go willingly.

In general, it is less expensive to bribe a tenant to leave by setting a move-out date and offering to pay for some of the costs of relocation. Things like movers, security deposit returned in full regardless of the condition of the property, security deposits on a new rental, and the like. Real estate investors who say this is inappropriate are either trying to set an example to other tenants, or they have never been through a protracted forcible detainer action. Tenants never improve from what they are, but they can get worse.