Preforeclosure ...my first one....HELP ! - Posted by GregMc, Texas

Posted by B.L.Renfrow on April 11, 2004 at 10:21:02:

Well, while caution is certainly prudent, I’m not sure I’d give up on this quite yet, as those numbers do look attractive, if they are accurate.

The lawsuit could be a deal killer. I’d want to know more about it and where they are in the process.

If there is an investors’ club in your area, you might want to attend and bring this deal for discussion. If there’s a deal to be made here it would probably be worthwhile to hook up with a more experienced investor to guide you through this one. With that amount of equity at stake, half is certainly better than nothing.

Brian (NY)

Preforeclosure …my first one…HELP ! - Posted by GregMc, Texas

Posted by GregMc, Texas on April 10, 2004 at 13:38:48:

I just started running my “we buy houses” ad a few days ago and a seller just called me. They have a 4B 3B home they are walking away from. The home is in preforeclosure. They are 3 months behind on their payments. The house is in excellent condition and is worth $90K they owe $51K. They will take $10K cash and lease purchase the balance of their mortgage giving me the right to sub lease. How should I structure this? I really do not want to put up $10. I have Mr. Legrand’s Lease option course and contracts. I just wanted someone?s guidance before I proceed.
Thanks,
Greg

Re: Preforeclosure …my first one…HELP ! - Posted by anon

Posted by anon on April 10, 2004 at 21:11:06:

FLIP!

Re: Preforeclosure …my first one…HELP ! - Posted by B.L.Renfrow

Posted by B.L.Renfrow on April 10, 2004 at 14:10:59:

First, have you verified the numbers and checked comps? I hope you’re not taking the seller’s word for the FMV and the amount owed. Sellers have a way of overestimating the value and “forgetting” little things like second mortgages, liens, etc.

Sure they will “take $10k cash” in addition to you making up the arrears…mighty nice of them! If I recall correctly, foreclosures happen pretty quickly in Texas, and if it goes to foreclosure, what are they going to get out of it? Probably pretty close to nothing. If I were to make up their payments and prevent them from having a foreclosure on their credit, they sure wouldn’t be getting any $10k from me. Maybe a few bucks for moving expenses, but that’s about it. Remember, you are in this to make money, not to have the seller’s problems become your problems.

Next, I would strongly suggest you reconsider this sandwich lease option idea. I realize that if you are just starting out, your tool box may not have many tools in it just yet, and you’ve perhaps studied this, and it’s the only thing you feel you know how to propose at this point.

I assure you, it’s a bad idea. These sellers are in financial difficulty. What do you want to bet they’re behind on other bills as well? What happens after they lease to you, you sub lease to a T/Ber, then down the road you find the sellers can’t deliver good title because they have liens and judgments a mile long attaching to this property? You are in deep doo doo, that’s what. If I was going to put any money into this besides marketing expenses, I’d want the deed.

If the numbers are correct, you have a few options. First, you could simply take an option on the property for their mortgage balance. Then, market the heck out of it: “MUST SELL…$20K BELOW MARKET VALUE.” If it’s really worth $90k, offer it for quick sale at $70k and make a quick $19k (less expenses) for your efforts. Not bad, huh?

Or, you could simply get it under contract for the mortgage balance, then assign it to an experienced investor for a quick $5k or so. Again, if your numbers are right, should be a piece of cake.

If you have cash reserves, you could take it subject to the existing mortgage, make up the arrears, then rent it, lease option it, retail it or whatever. BUT…and this is a big but…DON’T consider this unless you have cash, or quick access to cash, to cover the arrears and several months of payments and holding costs.

Just some quick ideas…hope they’re helpful in stimulating your creative thinking.

Brian (NY)

Re: Preforeclosure …my first one…HELP ! - Posted by GregMc, Texas

Posted by GregMc, Texas on April 10, 2004 at 21:56:43:

Thanks for the info Brian. I checked out the house and visited with the owners. They mentioned they were in the middle of a lawsuit. I think I’ll pass on the preforeclosures for a while.
Thanks again.
Greg

Re: Preforeclosure …my first one…HELP ! - Posted by Ray

Posted by Ray on April 12, 2004 at 08:20:28:

Greg,
Where in Texas are you located? I am north of Dallas in Frisco. I may be able to help you out if you are near me. Give me an email, as this could be a good deal.

Regards,
Ray
http://valertisinvestments.home.comcast.net

Don’t give up yet! (nt) - Posted by GP in WA

Posted by GP in WA on April 11, 2004 at 19:54:55:

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