New to Real Estate Investing. Thinking of being a scout

I am new to real estate investing and I have the same problem a lot of newbies have, i.e. fear. I am not sure where to start, what to do, etc.

I just read an article here about flipping that includes being a scout, i.e. finding good deals and “selling” them to other investors. I feel that this would help me with my fear of “not being able to do this”. I figure it involves no money, just time, which I have.

My question is, does anyone have any ideas on how to find good deals? Also, once I find the deals, how do I find the investors?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Hi chucky, what property types are you looking to invest in? Residential or Commercial?

I am thinking of starting with residential properties.

Being a scout can start as simply as being a bird dog or property locator for a wholesaler.

You could jump that hurdle immediately and become a wholesaler and that is my recommendation.

Congrats on moving forward
Jim

Chucky, I’d suggest you join 2 or 3 real estate investing clubs in your area… Get to know the big players and ask them what kind of properties they are interested in buying. Once you have a clear criteria of what investors are looking for, it will be much easier to get started that way.

At this meetups you are more likely to find people who were in your shoes, like myself. They will be able to guide you as well…

Ask in what areas investors are buying and scavenge these areas for deals…

Good luck.

Thank you Jim and Fred. I have been attending meetings at one club already but I have been playing a back seat role. I will become more active.

Thank you again!

I have been rehabbing and flipping houses on and off since around 2003, now I’m back in it full time and I have people coming to me here and there pushing different properties they say I could make decent money on, in fact I just had a guy twisting my ear about a couple of houses earlier tonight. I’m also a RE broker as well, although I mainly just list and sell my own projects.

My advice to you first off would be to always remember that you are selling yourself just as much or maybe more than you are selling any particular property or deal. Whenever someone comes to me touting a property, consciously or unconsciously I immediately size the person up before I ever start to even think about the property. This is because if its someone that I know knows what they are talking about and is an honest person, I’m far more likely to want to even hear the rest of whatever they’re selling. You would be trying to sell not just properties but really projects to primarily someone like me who wants to make a profit, so if I know that you are someone I can trust the information from, I’m far more likely to listen. Another thing is do I think this person knows what they are talking about? If you’re coming to someone about a project, I would think that you are giving them a package of info, how much they can buy it for, what work it needs and how much that will cost and finally, what can they really sell it for?

That’s one issue I have with the guru’s and whoever else tries to sell wholesaling as a great way for someone with little or no RE investing experience to get started. If you give me a figure for what the rehab should cost, how do I know that you know what rehabs really end up costing? I’m finally getting pretty good at estimating basic rehabs, I’m still getting there on my higher-end projects, just because they’re usually much more complex. Yet, this only comes after more than a few years of doing rehabs and learning the hard way. Of course, before I’d even think about writing any offer, I’d want to go through myself and total up my own estimate, but I want to get reliable figures from the person touting the project. Finally, as far as the final sale price goes, I want to know I can trust that number as well. Now, because I’m a realtor, I have access to the mls and can run comp sales on any property and get a pretty solid idea of what it should go for when done. Now, other than having mls access or if somehow the person knows the immediate area very well and knows exactly what things sell for, I would wonder how someone would be able to give me a projected sale price.

On other blogs and forums I have read that usually the people in the wholesaling business that really can make a living doing it are the ones that build up a network of trusted clients they can sell the deals to. One last thing too, I have always wondered and have seen where other RE investors also wonder the whole legality in many states of wholesaling or bird dogging or whatever it is, because in many cases, you are getting paid to sell someone else’s real estate, which usually requires a license to do. Maybe there’s a loophole that I’m missing, but that makes me think someone that wants to get into that end of the business ought to also get themselves licensed as an agent or a broker. Usually if you are in a metro area, you can find a realty firm like I did where they’re happy to take on part-time agents, I just pay a small fee each month for my mls access, office upkeep, etc and when I sell something, I get a great commission split, so it works for me.

Good points.

The strength of your cash buyers list is what takes wholesaling up a notch. With a strong list you are confident putting houses under contract and knowing they will sell and put money in your hand.

Right now, landlord buyers and flippers need wholesalers as the REO market has tightened up with multiple offers on the best properties in many cities across the country.

Jim

Wholesaling can mean a lot of different things.

If you are trying to make money without actually buying a house, you don’t need a license to sell someone else’s property. If you are structuring it properly, you are selling a contract, not a property.

–Natalie

Hi Chucky!

I do appreciate your honesty. There’s a lot of opportunity if you choose to do Bird Dogging first, especially the chance to learn more about Real Estate Investing and Wholesaling, if that’s what you intend to do.

But what I find to be a more important issue here is how you should overcome your fear. You must learn to understand that if you only do your best to muster your courage and face it head on, you will realize that in every situation, even after the worst possible outcome is to happen, you will still live after it. You will not only continue to live through it but you will bear experiences and learnings that will only enrich you and make you better.

What I’m really trying to say is, Do what it is that you want to do. You’ll be happier if you do. There are plenty of resources you can learn from and places like creonline.com can help you big time. Don’t be afraid to ask your questions, read and learn all you can and most importantly, have more faith in yourself and take action. =)