Posted by Wayne-NC on January 19, 2007 at 20:22:24:
Well, now that I think about it. I never, ever had one stolen. They just don’t know the value. But they will take the toaster!
Posted by Wayne-NC on January 19, 2007 at 20:22:24:
Well, now that I think about it. I never, ever had one stolen. They just don’t know the value. But they will take the toaster!
fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Tom (OH)
Posted by Tom (OH) on January 18, 2007 at 09:14:54:
I hope someone is able to help me with this. I own an 8-unit rental building and was in the process of replacing fire detectors earlier this week when one tenant mentioned that they had never been supplied with a fire extinguisher. I’ve owned the unit almost two years and to be honest, it never crossed my mind until she mentioned it to me. Does anyone know if it is required or usual practice to supply these (I’m in Ohio)? I’ve searched the landlord-tenant laws and fire code but have not had luck finding an answer.
Maybe the easy answer is to just get one for everyone, but that is just one more item that will need to be tracked (and if its not necessary, why add to the list). Should I tell the tenants they are expected to have their own extinguishers? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Tim
Posted by Tim on January 19, 2007 at 09:03:18:
I install a fire extinguisher in the kitchen of every unit. Each new tenant is shown where the extinguisher & the smoke detectors are, and how to operate them. I then have them sign a document that states they have been shown, & that they understand it is their responsibility to test the detectors once a month & replace the batteries as needed.
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Anne_ND
Posted by Anne_ND on January 18, 2007 at 20:13:46:
I have to admit, I’m a little surprised by the tone of some of the responses…
Whether you are required by law or not- why would you NOT provide a cheap safety tool for the people who live in your property? It’s the right thing to do on so many levels (esp from a liability standpoint), I can’t imagine even questioning it.
I install a new fire ext with each tenancy, and get the tenant to sign off on it so in the event of fire I can show that I’ve provided them with the necessary safety equipment. Let’s say they walk away with it after they leave… big deal, it cost me $16 at Menards.
I don’t know of any of my tenants who’ve ever needed to use one, but I have twice in my own kitchen, and was really glad I had them.
Which reminds me I need to get one for myself…
Anne
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Sailor
Posted by Sailor on January 18, 2007 at 16:07:24:
Whether or not it is the law, good safety practices can help you
avoid some really nasty liabilities. A nice fire extinguisher is c.
$25 & is an excellent insurance policy.
I provide them for all tenants & have learned that I must install
them myself (or they can be more easily swapped for booze or
drugs). I also install a minimum of one new smoke alarm for each
bedroom, & replacing the batteries myself twice a year (don’t just
give tenants new batteries because they don’t get used for the
alarms) gives me the perfect excuse for getting in to inspect. Any
units that are not all-electric also receive a carbon monoxide
detector.
I have tenants sign a receipt for all safety items Photographs are
great documentation, too, & some very wise landlords video
themselves testing the smoke alarms. I can’t imagine being too
careful in matters like this. Promoting health & safety is good
business.
Tye
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by David Krulac
Posted by David Krulac on January 18, 2007 at 15:36:47:
Here in Pa. several insurance companies require fire extinguisher in and multi-unit even 2 units. Here most muncipalities require smoke detectors, some requiring hard wired (110 volts AC) interconnnected smoke detectors.
I do - Posted by Wayne-NC
Posted by Wayne-NC on January 18, 2007 at 10:50:51:
It is just one more thing that they loose anyway. If there was ever a problem, “you can lead a horse to water” defense applies. I supplied but I can’t use it for them if needed. It does show however that I care.
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Tom (OH)
Posted by Tom (OH) on January 18, 2007 at 09:20:19:
Nevermind…I found my answer, but maybe this will be of use to someone else:
“All rental units shall be supplied with a fire extinguisher in or near the kitchen. (OCO Section PM-705.4.1)”
Re: I do - Posted by RichV(FL)
Posted by RichV(FL) on January 19, 2007 at 18:52:37:
Wayne,
You are not kidding. Either they lose it or steal it when they move.
But I provide one anyway, and have them sign off on my move in move out form that one was there.
RichV(FL)
Re: fire extinguishers in rentals - Posted by Sgt.Sausage
Posted by Sgt.Sausage on January 18, 2007 at 12:28:05:
That’s from the OCO – Oxford Code. Unless you’re renting to some Miami students … it doesn’t apply to the entire state of OH (but likely your municipality may have similar code in place)
Whether it’s required as per code or not … it’s a good idea.
I put all mine by the front door. Best place for 'em if you ask me. That way, the tenant can at least look at the thiing as they’re running out the door to let the place burn down. I’ve got insurance to cover a fire loss. I don’t want someone to die trying to be a hero. Put it by the front door, and they’re halfway out the front door before they even think of grabbing it and becoming a dead hero.