Posted by Rob FL on December 20, 2002 at 15:49:10:
Like I said, I don’t know your whole personal situation, but I’ve seen people around me get into trouble with too many doctors and too many pills. I’ve also seen your posts bounce from a few days ago wanting to quit the REI business to now putting it off until spring, so I don’t know quite what’s going on with you. But that’s for you to ultimately decide not me or some shrink. I just hope that whatever you are doing with your life it works out the way you want it to.
Car crash turns out to be temporary setback - Posted by Bryan-SactoCA
Posted by Bryan-SactoCA on December 19, 2002 at 16:52:24:
I went to my psychiatrist a week after the car crash and he said that I have a tendency to “freeze” when confronted with a sudden change in situation. This is also related to the fact that I end to easily crack under pressure. So he gave me a new medicine that will help me to sleep better as well. The full effects may not come for another month or two. But I should be able to restart sending out letters in the spring. Thanks everybody for your support.
Posted by Rob FL on December 19, 2002 at 20:07:51:
Stay away from psychiatrists and most prescription drugs. These tend to unnecessarily mess peoples minds and bodies up a whole lot more than simply staying away from them. Get into some good positive thinking books and tapes. Also try your best to associate with positive thinking people (like an REI meeting, Kiwanis clubs, church, this newsgroup, etc.).
Just my opinions. I have relatives who like psychiatrists and drugs and I see what it has done to them. Absolutely terrible and very expensive.
Re: Car crash turns out to be temporary setback - Posted by Stan(nv)
Posted by Stan(nv) on December 19, 2002 at 19:22:52:
Glad to have you back, Bryan. As with any kind of trauma, don’t rush recovery, just take things at your own best pace. Let things fall back into place and
everything will work out fine.
Mental Illness medicine. Speak not of which you know not, for you may be screwing with someones life. Do you think that someone with a mental defect wants to behave that way? Do you think that if they would just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and listen to a few Zig tapes everything would be fine? Feel well blessed that no one in your life has been affected my this much maligned disease.
Posted by Heather -Tx on December 19, 2002 at 20:35:45:
Depends on the person, and sometimes the docs and drugs are a MUST. Someone in my family is Bi polar( wont say who or she will get mad at me!) and went through a very rough time a couple years ago, without the meds and docs, I don’t think she would be here today. I think she would have took care of that herself.
If you need them, they can be a life saver. Just don’t use them as a habit or a crutch.
Glad to see you are getting back to REI thinking Good luck to you.
Heather
Re: Why is it OK to take cold medicine but not… - Posted by Rob FL
Posted by Rob FL on December 20, 2002 at 10:30:23:
I’ve seen alot the other way around also. If someone has epilepsy, schizophrenia, deep depression, or some other obvious problem then yes they need help. On the other hand, every time you turn on TV there is some pharmaceutical commerical telling you to “ask your doctor about such and such” and then the last 15 seconds of the commercial tells you all the wonderful side effects. My personal feeling is there are alot of people in this country in “therapy” or taking their “medication” who in fact really just need a few good kicks in the rear end. There are alot of people who feel that because their parents were “dysfunctional” or because “society” did such and such that now they need a doctor or drugs to fix all their past problems.
I have several family members who have gone through years of this stuff. I’m talking from first hand knowledge of how bad this stuff can get when used inappropriately. (A 28-year old family member with cataracts in the eyes because of wonderful prescription drugs.)
I really don’t know Bryan’s situation and I wish him well in his life and endeavors. But I sure hope all this is not a crutch or a convenient excuse.
Re: Why is it OK to take cold medicine but not… - Posted by Nate(DC)
Posted by Nate(DC) on December 19, 2002 at 22:48:06:
Well spoken Shawn. Seen too many people in my family disabled and destroyed by this stuff to sit idly by when people say “oh, it’s all in your head, just snap out of it.”
Posted by Rob FL on December 20, 2002 at 10:33:10:
I agree that there are some situations that absolutely require medication and doctors. But there are alot of people who use these to help them blame society, or their parents, or some other excuse in order to hold themselves back.
I’ve seen first hand in my family the bad things that doctors and prescription drugs can do to a person.
Re: Why is it OK to take cold medicine but not… - Posted by Bryan-SactoCA
Posted by Bryan-SactoCA on December 20, 2002 at 13:43:59:
All my life I was told to “snap out of it”, to simply get a sunny outlook and stop being so negative and depressed. But the older I got, the worse my symptoms became, and the more I tried to “snap out of it” the worse it got and the more people tried to “cheer me up” and tell me to get positive. I tried my hardest to “come on and get happy” but it didn’t work. Finally I managed to convince myself to see a psychiatrist, despite having hated psychiatrists and medicine most of my life. I finally took medicine, and guess what it worked. My current shrink is one of the top psychiatrists in north central California-he’s always being interviewed by local TV stations for his mental health insights. I finally found out that I was truly ill, not just a grouch with excuses. I learned that neither I nor “society” nor “dysfunctional parents” were at fault for who I am (and trust me I spent my teenage years blaming everybody I could) but I was just born this way. I know that a lot of people are looking for happy pills (or thin pills or beauty pills or pill pills) without realizing that they’re playing with fire. Look at this whole Redux scandal where everybody rushed out to buy the magic thin pill only to end up with ruined hearts (and once your heart is fried, you can bend over and kiss yourself goodbye). For years I sneered at psychiatric medicine as “happy pills” for weak people and refused to take them, but those happy pills have changed my life. Without them I’d still be living in a crummy room in San Francisco’s Tenderloin and blaming the world for my chemical imbalances. Rob, do you still think it’s a crutch?
Good luck to you.