Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by John

Posted by -Jimbo- on October 25, 2003 at 14:34:49:


It should not take any longer than 30 days to fill any house.

Obviously markets will be different all over the place, but just calculate a 10% vacancy.
It should be less, and if it fits with the rest of your deductions, then buy, buy, buy.

Repairs…well, have 3 months worth of money sitting aside just in case (reserve).
Also, if the house needs a roof, expect 4-6K. Especially if you’re replacing the OSB.

Happy investing,

-Jimbo- “If you don’t run your own life, somebody else will.” -John Atkinson

Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by John

Posted by John on October 23, 2003 at 21:29:44:

I’m getting closer and closer to buying my first piece of rental property (really I am!) and one thing I’m not quite sure of in the pre-offer phase is how to get a good idea as to whether or not there will be a desirable cash flow. I used to think there was just mortage minus rents plus a little extra for “costs,” but I’m looking for a more accurate formula that includes things like potential vacancies, other costs, taxes, and whatever else there is. I hear about new stuff all the time, like debt service, ground rent, etc. that sound like they could turn a seemingly good deal into a negative cash flow deal. I would appreciate any help, especially anything with “rules of thumb” or “average percentages”

Positive Cash Flow - Posted by Tony S. in FL

Posted by Tony S. in FL on October 24, 2003 at 21:11:53:

Two ways to achieve positive cash flow:

  1. The capitalization rate exceeds the annual loan constant where the loan-to-value ratio is normal (70 to 80%)

  2. The loan-to-value ratio is abnormally low (60% or lower)

Re: Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by Dimpil

Posted by Dimpil on October 24, 2003 at 05:22:01:

My basic formula is:

Rent - mortgage - taxes - insurance - repairs - vacancy rate.

I’d stay away from townhomes and condos as they can eat a cash flow up with homeowners association dues as some places charge like $50 a month to $150 a month. To me what is reasonable is $150 a year for a nice SFR community, then I’d throw that in there also.

Re: Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by Robert

Posted by Robert on October 24, 2003 at 13:02:20:

The only thing I would add to the formula above is management fees. You will eventually want to get paid for the time you spend managing these properties or pay someone else to do it so that you can spend your time on finding more deals. A good rule of thumb is 8% of the rent.

Re: Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by E.Eka

Posted by E.Eka on October 24, 2003 at 09:18:26:

I’m looking to start buying and holding like rentals. How should i determine my vacancy rate?
How should I determine my future repairs?

Re: Calculating Cash Flow - Posted by Antoine (GA)

Posted by Antoine (GA) on October 24, 2003 at 06:16:01:

You might want to subtract from the rent money for reserves.