As some of you may recall, I bought 2 notes from a lender a few weeks ago. Well I went to the court house today to protect the position of my two notes.
I bought the 2 of them for 231k altogether. The combined face value for these 2 notes was about 300k. With private money fees and everything else, it came to about 247k. House is worth about 290k to 300k in as-is condition. If one spends about 15k to fix it up, one may be able to sell it for around 325k.
With wishful thinking, I was hoping that someone would bib to 270k. This way, I’d get cashed out immediately and make about 23k with little or not effort. To my surprise, the bidding went all the way to 280k.
Where do these investors get the money? Why would they bid so high? I just don’t get it. Should I find some ways to try and market my wholesale properties to these people?
Posted by Natalie-VA on April 14, 2007 at 09:43:06:
Great job Brian! I can’t tell you how jealous I am. I’ve been trying to buy notes in default with no luck so far.
About those investors at the auction. Remember that they get involved in the bidding frenzy. I’ve tried to sell a few houses to auction investors and found that they wouldn’t pay me near the prices that they would bid at auction. I would be interested to see if you have different results.
They bid that high because they are DUMBASSES! Also known as
amateurs, or so hungry for an “investment” that they will cut their
profit margin to the bone. You can’t win when when you’re competing
with idiots like this
You shouldn’t be jealous especially when I have been able to do it twice only. It seems that Homecomings is pretty investor-friendly.
I’m gonna try to find some ways to work with them. Sometimes they’re reluctant to get out of their comfort zones. Being able to bid against other bidders confirmed to them that they’re doing the right thing because other investors want what they’re trying to get, too.
Posted by S Fl Rich on April 14, 2007 at 11:37:44:
From the looks of it…Brian found a way to win with idiots like that… We have similar bidders at our local auctions, and I’ve found that buying the property pre-foreclosure, and then wholesaling to these same guys that are willing to pay nearly retail has proven to be a pretty profitable strategy. It makes it easier on them too, because they don’t have to compete with other investors at an aution.
RE: In Reply to: At the auction today posted by Brian_wa on April 13, 2007 at 20:56:34:
Yeah check out the deeds of the “Investors” who purchased the properties and send them a letter and your business card.
Ib
Do not forget to look up their phone number …
AND CALL THEM, Meet with them.
Make sure that if they accused you of being an investor they have enough information to convict you!
Do you have a more descriptive word, Rich? (And that’s not to say I’m
not also one from time to time). But they are not my customer’s. They
are my competitors, and I don’t like it when one of them bids way more
than a property is worth, negating all of my time, research and effort to
show up at the auction. Maybe that’'s why bidding at auctions often
isn’t as profitable as it used to be. Too many amatuers there who don’t
know what they’re doing.