A FREE HOUSE? - Posted by Todd in Florida

Posted by John Merchant on November 06, 2002 at 23:49:43:

Interesting, but not so simple as you seem to think to get rid of the lender’s interests. Nothing you could sign or file today would be effective in getting rid of the lender’s rights.

The actual note holder could turn up any day and demand the balance owed on their note. They have to concern themselves with the Statute of limitations in your property’s state, as they lose the right to collect after the SOL runs on a written contract…but only as each payment comes due.

In other words, in a state with a 4 year SOL, they’d lose the right to make you make a payment 4 years after it’s due. So they’d lose the right to one payment each month, after it was overdue for 4 years.

But all those delinquent payments not yet 4 years old would survive and the note holder would retain the right to collect those.

If nobody ever comes forward until all the note payments have become due, and the entire note has matured, and the SOL then runs, then you might indeed end up with the property F & C of the lender’s note balance.

At that time, should you never have heard from the lender, you’ll probably need to file a Suit to Quiet the Title, present your evidence in the court, and then ask the judge to grant you a judgment finding that you own the property F & C of the lender’s lien. The judge could then enter a judgment to that effect, which you would record in the deed records, and then be able to get total ownership of the property.

Meanwhile I think you had better stand ready to make up the overdue payments on the note, should the note holder show up and demand you pay them. You’d have a good case for making them redo the note so as to avoid having them foreclose on you, but they would have the right to be paid on yout debt to them.

If you tried to sell the property today, you’d have a problem because you don’t have a complete title, and you could only sell it subject to the lender’s lien interests.

A FREE HOUSE? - Posted by Todd in Florida

Posted by Todd in Florida on November 06, 2002 at 22:26:32:

Hi my mortgage company went out of business a little bit more than 4yrs ago. I have not been able to pay anyone for the mortgage because the mail keeps coming back and there phone is still off and I just cant get ahold of anyone.

I have tried to find the owners of the company who used to be in ft myers area of florida but nope cant find a sole.

They had a incorpation in the state of florida and they did not re apply so they lost the incorpation too.

I need to know can I just go down to the court house and file a quick claim deed or sign a satisfaction of mortgage paper, And get there name off the deed ?

I mean how long do you have to wait to try and get them off the deed if I cant just sign the satisfaction of mortgage.

Has anyone ever heard of this happening before.

I want to sell the house and move or refinance the home.

If anyone has any answers for me please email me at mrhomerepair2@aol.com

Re: A FREE HOUSE? - Posted by David Krulac

Posted by David Krulac on November 07, 2002 at 14:01:34:

you can’t sign a quit claim deed or a satisfaction piece for the mortgage company.

They may have been bought by another company, or their loans may have been bought by another company. You should check with the dept of state in the state where the mortgage company was headquartered. check the internet, and by all means check with an attorney.

You will have a problem trying to sell or re-finance this property, so if you intend on doing either anytime soon, you should consult with an attorney NOW.

In some states the mortgage is good for the lenght of the mortgage term, say 30 years PLUS 21 more years.

A quiet title action may be appropriate in your situation. consult with your attorney.

David Krulac
Central Pennsylvania