30 year lease as part of 1031 exchange-John? - Posted by Brian,WI

Posted by SteveC_GA on January 23, 2003 at 13:12:53:

Brian,

You bring up a point about the 1031 that many people aren’t aware of, the fact that you can exchange into a long-term lease (30 years or more).

"Can I buy this MHP on a lease with an option as long as the lease is for 30 years or longer as part of my 1031 exchange? "
Yes, but you technically wouldn’t be buying the property, you would just have a leasehold interest with an option to purchase. You must record this option in order to protect your interest.

"What if the seller is older and not expected to live more then 30 years? "
That’s OK, you probably won’t hold the property that long anyway. If the guy passes away, you still have interest in the property no matter who he lives it to. It might even create a better situation for you after his death because most heirs want the cash as soon as possible. They may be willing to take a much lower option price if you pay them off early.

“Can I use my option any time within those 30 years and “buy” the MHP without penalty or would I always just be leasing the park?”
You can exercise the option at any time, however unless you 1031 again, the capital gains from the first property will eventually catch up with you.

“What are the advantages for the seller (and me for that matter) in doing this type of deal?”
One advantage to the seller is that if his tax basis is low in the property, he doesn’t have to worry about capital gains tax from a sale since he still owns the property and is only leasing it to you.
Another advantage would be a steady passive income from your lease payments for a long time.

Typically, we use a long term lease/option to solve a seller’s tax problem. For instance, we are working on a deal right now in NC where a seller has a tax basis of 250K in a property that is worth about 3 mill. He has a mortgage of 2.9 mill on the property. As you can see, he has pulled out much of the profit via a mortgage. Unfortunately, he lost all of this money in another deal. The only way he is going to get out of this tax problem is to lease the property and give us an option to buy. If we don’t exercise the option while he is still alive, he doesn’t have to worry about the capital gains.

If your case Brian, I would just go ahead and see if the seller will sell with owner financing. Convince him of the benefits of the monthly income from the financing and the fact that he should be able to report the profit under the installment sales method which will ease the tax implications.

I hope this helps.
Good Luck

Steve Case

30 year lease as part of 1031 exchange-John? - Posted by Brian,WI

Posted by Brian,WI on January 21, 2003 at 14:16:21:

On November 26, 2002 I sold a rooming house for $185,000 that had a $75,000 mortgage on it and entered into a 1031 exchange, coming out of the sale with about $106,000.

January 10, 2003 was the last day for me to identify “replacement” property(s) for the 1031 exchange.

One of those properties is a mobile home park I hope to buy. Right now asking price is $500,000.

If with an out-right purchase of this park for $500,000 with the $106,000 down from the above sale and financing the rest, all my bases should be covered for the 1031 exchange…correct?

Well I’m finally meeting in person with the owner of this park on Thursday and want to maybe run buy him the idea of a net lease with an option to buy the park, which if I read IRS publication 544 for 2001 returns correctly it states at the top of the middle column, 2nd paragraph…

“The exchange of real estate you own for a real estate lease that runs 30 years or longer is a like-kind exchange. However, not all exchanges of interests in real property qualify. The exchange of a life estate expected to last less than 30 years for a remainder interest is not a like-kind exchange. An exchange of a remainder interest in real estate for a remainder interest in other real estate is a like-kind exchange if the nature or character of the two property interests is the same.”

With that said(quoted),

Can I buy this MHP on a lease with an option as long as the lease is for 30 years or longer as part of my 1031 exchange?

What if the seller is older and not expected to live more then 30 years?

Can I use my option any time within those 30 years and “buy” the MHP without penalty or would I always just be leasing the park?

What are the advantages for the seller (and me for that matter) in doing this type of deal?

I think those are most of my questions(for now).

Thanks for any and all help.

Brian,WI

P.S. See you at the MH workshop in a couple weeks, John!