Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by Robert Campbell

import · January 30, 2003, 10:27am

Posted by mike on February 01, 2003 at 24:57:38:

It doesn’t take a million sales to get on NYT bestseller list (but I guess if people think it does that why books on it have an air of ‘credibility’). I thought it req’d 100k sales but apparently it can be as low as 18,000 to make the list. The agent for (interestingly enough) Amway’s co-founder was outed for placing orders for 18,000 of the Amway co-founder’s book but only from a select handful of stores that report sales to NYT list. Maybe the co-founcder told him how to do it after pushing RK’s crapola…

http://www.nytimes.com/library/financial/082300book-bestseller.html

Mike

import · January 30, 2003, 10:27am

Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by Robert Campbell

Posted by Robert Campbell on January 30, 2003 at 11:27:07:

Whether you agree with everything Robert Kiyosaki says or not, what is indisputable is the fact that this man knows how to sell real estate books, services, and products.

With respect to his “prediction” of a coming real estate crash, he may be right or he may be wrong. No body knows what tomorrow’s newspaper is going to say. Thus, only time will be the final judge of his genius or madness.

Nevertheless, this prediction sure gets headlines – and sells more books. And this happens to be my personal interest.

As many of you on this board already know, I too sell a book. It’s titled Timing the Real Estate Market and I have been trying (unsuccessfully, I might add) to get a copy into Robert Kiyosaki’s hands for two months now.

Kiyosaki is so successful now that it seems almost impossible to reach him directly. I have been to his web site (www.RichDad.com) and emailed him several times. I have also writen to him at the address shown on this web site.

Nothing.

So if anyone has any ideas to help me reach Kiyosaki, if I am successful, as a small token of appreciation I will mail you a free copy of my book.

By the way, this post has been tentatively cleared with the powers to be who own this web site. J.P. and Terry are on vacation.

I would be sincerely grateful for any help.

If you think locating motivated sellers is hard, try to reach a celebrity directly.

Thank you.

Robert Campbell

import · January 30, 2003, 5:38pm

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by David Krulac

Posted by David Krulac on January 30, 2003 at 18:38:15:

2 suggestions

!. if you can’t get to the man get as close as you can, for example DeRoos, Sharon Lechter, Sharon Lechter’s husband Michael, the book publisher, his agent, people mentioned in his acknowledgements such as Diane Kennedy, etc, etc, etc,

RK is a businessman, you’re a businessman. B2B offer him a cut of your book if he includes it in the RDPD series. I’m sure DeRoos has a deal like that. Who ever heard of him before RK?

David Krulac
Central Pennsylvania

import · January 30, 2003, 5:23pm

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by GL(ON)

Posted by GL(ON) on January 30, 2003 at 18:23:58:

Kiyosaki is a great bull shooter who knows what the public wants and gives it to them with both barrels.

Now that he is a big shot he must get a million people a week asking him to get their stuff published, send them money, invest in their deals and do favors of various kinds. This is standard with celebrities and they all have a staff to brush this kind of thing off, and the staff knows nothing about books investing etc.

I would suggest you write to his agent and publisher.

I assume you want him to help you push your book the way he has with Dolf de Roos.

If he doesn’t respond you will have to push the book yourself. Once it reaches a certain level of popularity maybe he will come to you.

import · January 30, 2003, 1:52pm

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by eric-fl

Posted by eric-fl on January 30, 2003 at 14:52:49:

Since you seem to have an (understandably) amoral stance to the whole Kiyosaki thing, you might want to pick up a copy of the SmartMoney magazine I referenced in my post below. It talks a fair amount about his associates, his affiliation with Amway, etc. There might have even been one or two names mentioned in the article, if I remember correctly. You might be able to find some sort of angle in there to use.

import · January 30, 2003, 1:05pm

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by Eddy (CT)

Posted by Eddy (CT) on January 30, 2003 at 14:05:18:

Robert Campbell,
I read your book. It makes sense to me and I’ll track your 5 “Vital Signs” in my market to see if it works here :). RK, in my opinion, is a product of some marketing company. Gloomster predictions sell a lot better than upbeat stuff, especially lately. Find out who RK’s promoters are and send them a couple of copies of your book with a cover letter of compelling reasons to read it. JT Reed has a critique of RK (and about everybody else it seems) where he mentions that some MLM bigwigs helped RK get started (as I recall). Maybe you can pick up the trail there.
Good luck,
Eddy

import · January 30, 2003, 11:53am

How come I don’t have a copy of your book? NT - Posted by Shawn J. Dostie

Posted by Shawn J. Dostie on January 30, 2003 at 12:53:19:

import · January 30, 2003, 11:23am

The Real Genius… - Posted by $Cash$ (NV)

Posted by $Cash$ (NV) on January 30, 2003 at 12:23:07:

Bob,

I have a copy of your book and believe me I am not one to buy any courses or books for fear of entering in to the land of ‘Information Overload’. I mean if it ain’t broke why fix it.

I will say this in my opinon your book should be on every creative real estate investors ‘Best Sellers List’. It made sense to me and has changed some of my investing strategies.

Now as far as reaching Mr. Kiyosaki, the smart money is on who he uses to promote his materials, these are the people I want to meet, there in lies the real genius behind the man.

John $Cash$ Locke

import · January 30, 2003, 11:04am

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by Jason Guthrie

Posted by Jason Guthrie on January 30, 2003 at 12:04:16:

Robert-

Maybe try getting a copy into the hands of his wife Kim. Since she is a little lower profile she may be easier to reach. This may be a way to indirectly get into the ear of Kiyosaki without out going through his staff. Just an idea.

Jason

import · January 30, 2003, 3:57pm

Re: The Real Genius… - Posted by Rob FL

Posted by Rob FL on January 30, 2003 at 16:57:39:

From what I understand his first big promoters were members of the Amway Corporation. They got Rich Dad Poor Dad sold to a million or so Amway distributors and by doing that the book became a New York Times best seller. Once Amway gave Kiyosaki a name, he was able to sell the book to the rest of the public. That’s what I’ve heard anyway.

import · January 30, 2003, 4:28pm

Re: Robert Kiyosaki: Mad Man or Genius? - Posted by vern

Posted by vern on January 30, 2003 at 17:28:02:

Rk got slammed in the Smart Money article. He obviously didn’t know he was gonna get slammed when he smiled while he was posing for the articles pictures!!!