I've been gone, but now I'm back? - Posted by Ed Garcia

Posted by Ed Garcia on July 30, 2001 at 18:33:39:


A few months back someone asked a similar question that was answered by old JohnBoy.

I liked Johns answer, and even though it in the creonline archives, I kept it for people such as you.

Here it is courtesy of JonhBoy, I hope that it helps you.

Posted by JohnBoy on January 21, 2001 at 15:51:04:

In Reply to: posted by Mark Chicago on January 21, 2001 at 15:36:11:

Maybe this will help. I posted to this to someone else and I’ll just change the name in the reply to reflect the poster!


The way most people make money in this game is by using creative techniques to solve one persons problem while being able to structure
the deal to where it makes you a profit.

The key to finding a lot of deals in this game is to look for the MOTIVATED SELLERS…forget about looking for houses, that’s a waste
of time and requires way too much work!!! Narrow it down to dealing with “motivated” sellers and make less offers that get more offers

Let me give you an example on buying a house for full market value with no money out of your pocket and picking up a quick $5k up
front, positive cash flow every month and a nice payday on the back end…plus where talking about dealing in NICE homes…NO

Mr. Seller has a newer home he purchased about 2 years ago. When he purchased the home he put about 5% down and was able to
qualify for 95% financing. After closing cost he had hardly any equity left.

Mr. Seller ended up buying a new home a couple years later. He’s been trying to sell this home before he has to close on his new home.
He can’t even afford to list the home with a realtor because he doesn’t have enough equity in the property to even cover the 6% - 7%
commission he would have to pay the agent.

Now his new home is ready and he needs to close on it. He closes and figures he’ll sell the old home soon, but soon enough doesn’t seem
to be coming. Now he’s starting to have some financial problems because he has to start paying two mortgage payments until someone
buys the old home. He has a problem now because he can’t afford to make two mortgage payments. If something doesn’t give pretty quick
he’s going to fall behind on the payments on the old home. He’s going to pay the new homes mortgage first. But he doesn’t want to be late
or get behind on the payments of the old home either…he’s worried about damaging his credit if he misses any payments.

This is where I would come along and be in a position to SOLVE HIS PROBLEM! I can put a stop to his worry and stop the bleeding
TODAY! All he needs to do is agree to my TERMS and I’ll even pay him what he owes on the property, which is pretty close to full
market value. He knows he wasn’t going to get any money out of it after paying off his mortgage and closing costs, so all he wants and all
he NEEDS, is to get out from under this mortgage!

I agree to take over his mortgage. I take it over “subject to”, which means I assume his loan without even qualifying through the lender that
holds his mortgage. He will deed the property over to me. I now OWN the home. HE is still on the loan that has the lien against the
property. He remains responsible to the lender for that loan until I pay it off! Usually within a few years when my tenant ends up exercising
their option that I will give to them under a lease option agreement. I won’t be liable for the loan on the property. His bank can’t touch me
if something were to go wrong. The loan is in HIS name, not mine! However, I will be liable to the seller to perform on our contract
agreement to make his payments and pay off that loan eventually, but my liability is to him, not his bank.

He deeds the property over to me. The house is worth $150k. His loan balance is about $145k. I agree to start making the payments in
30 - 60 days from today! Now I have 30 - 60 days to market the property before my payments start. The payments are $1400 PITI

What’s the FASTEST way to sell a property? Sell on TERMS! So I run an ad in the paper.

NO BANK QUALIFYING!!! RENT TO OWN NICE! 4bd/2ba House Call xxx-xxxx

The phone starts ringing off the hook!

I find a potential buyer that has $5k to put down and says he can afford to pay $1700 per month. ($150k homes in the area would rent for
$1200 - $1400 per month, so getting $1700 a month on a $1400 rental when offering an OPTION to buy will bring a premium rent and
people will gladly pay it because no one else will even finance them because of one reason or another) I agree to give them an option to
buy the home for $165k in one or two years. Again, you get a premium on the sale price because you’re offering TERMS!

I collect the $5k up front as “Non-Refundable Option Consideration” and “IF” they exercise the OPTION, the $5k will be deducted from
the purchase price of $165k leaving them with a balance owed of $160k. If they don’t exercise the option the option money paid is
non-refundable and is lost!

I get the $5k up front, plus first months rent of $1700. Since I was lucky and found this tenant the first week I get to keep 100% of the
first two months rent since my payments won’t start for 60 days! So I collect $5k + $1700 first month rent up front for a total of $6700.
The following month I collect the full $1700 for rent and the 10 months after that I collect $300 per month positive cash flow. At the end
of the year IF they exercise their option they will pay $160k. After paying off the underlying mortgage of $145k I’ll collect another $15k at

So lets see, that’s…

$5k option money up front $1700 first months rent $1700 second months rent $300 x 10 months rent = $3k $15k at closing

That’s $26,400.00 over 12 months total PROFIT!

Now what happens if the tenant/buyer doesn’t exercise the option in a year???


Now I get to start all over again!!! I get to collect another option fee, raise the rent after a year for inflation and get a higher selling price for
the option the next time around!

I just keep repeating the process over and over again until someone eventually exercises their option!!!

Assuming every tenant was to exercise their option in the first year…how many deals like this would you have to do each year to make

Just FOUR deals like this one and you’re making $105,600 per year!

How many hours would that work out to be to find and structure a deal like this and get a tenant/buyer in the property? Not very many!

How many hours per week would you have to put into working at your job to make $105,600.00 per year???

So how do we find these deals?

One thing to remember is that the typical home buyer or seller does not understand any type of creative real estate buying or selling. They
typically use a realtor to buy or sell. When that realtor doesn’t sell that home or when that buyer can’t get that loan…that’s where
motivation starts to set in. The seller starts getting motivated to sell and the buyer starts getting motivated to buy. In either case they both
just want out or in. The seller will just let the property go to get their problem solved and the buyer will gladly pay any price to just get in if
you can solve their problem.

Motivated sellers are those that have been trying to sell but haven’t been able to for one reason or another. Or they may be facing
foreclosure, or they may be in a divorce situation, or they may have been transferred with their job and need to move on but they don’t
want to leave the house empty or deal with renting it out to renters being so far away, or they may have lost their job and can no longer
afford the home and need to find something less expensive, or they may have purchased another home and are now stuck with two
mortgage payments, or for what ever other reasons they just need to get out from under their mortgage payments.

The buyers just need someone that will sell to them. They can’t get a bank loan or some just “think” they can’t get a bank loan and they
only care about two things! How much down and how much per month? If they can afford the payments and have enough to put down in
order to let them in, price doesn’t matter to them as much. They just WANT to be able to buy a home!

Your job is to become the “PROBLEM SOLVER!” Instead of thinking in terms of, I’m looking to buy properties, or I want to be an
investor, or how do I buy properties with no money, or how do I get financing, etc…

Start thinking in terms of being a “problem solver”. Your job is to find SOLUTIONS to fix someone else’s problems! Your job is to sit
down with these people and find out what their problem is. Once you figure out what their real problem is, you now know what they
NEED! They all WANT an all cash sale. They WANT full price and WANT someone to just waltz in and buy their home the traditional
way. But your job is to find out what they really NEED! Once you find out what their PROBLEM is, then you can determine what their
NEED is. Once you know what they really NEED, then your job to get the deal closed is to just come up with the SOLUTION that will
get them what they NEED!

You aren’t a real estate investor, you are a PROBLEM SOLVER! You find SOLUTIONS to solve anyone’s PROBLEM! That’s how
you make the deals come together!

The best way to find the motivated sellers is to get them to find YOU! You get them to find you by getting the word out that you buy
property! Any property, any condition, any price, any time! It doesn’t matter. Just present the property to you and you will figure out a
solution to solve the sellers problem to get them what they NEED!

You get a bunch of business cards printed up. Put them out everywhere you go. Hand them out to everyone you meet. Get flyers made up.
Post them everywhere you can. Put them in Laundromats, bowling alleys, advertising boards in supermarkets, car washes…put them any
where you can put them! Then get some poster signs made up. Post them anywhere you can. Telephone poles. Nail them to a stake and
post them on every intersection in town. Let the world know that MARK buys houses for CASH! Just give him a call!!!

Eventually people will start calling YOU! Most won’t be motivated, but some will! You want the ones that are motivated. When they call
YOU, that’s when you screen them over the phone first and determine their motivation. Then you go visit them and get face to face with
them and build a relationship with them. You want them to get comfortable talking to you. They may want to talk about their dog for all
you care. Let them! Get comfortable with them. Let them build some trust in talking with you. When ever they talk, you SHUT UP and
just LISTEN! Listen to everything they say. The more they talk, the more information they let out. The more info they let out, the more you
learn about their PROBLEM. The more you learn about their problem, the more you will be able to find out what they really NEED! Once
you got that information you can now figure out a SOLUTION that will SOLVE their PROBLEM by being able to give them what they
NEED! Your solution to their problem gets them what they need and you make a profit for your problem solving skills! You’re a
PROBLEM SOLVER! You’re the DOCTOR OF SOLUTIONS! DR. MARK, the master of problem solving!

Now, get busy and go out there and pick up two deals by the end of the month and then report back with your success story!

Check out Bill Bronchick’s course on lease options. I highly recommend his “Nuts & Bolts to Creative Real Estate Transactions”.

You can find both courses at these links:



You can check out all his stuff at this link:


You will get my bill in the mail at the end of the month! LOL

Michael, next time you see JohnBoy post thank him.

Ed Garcia

I’ve been gone, but now I’m back? - Posted by Ed Garcia

Posted by Ed Garcia on July 29, 2001 at 20:00:24:

I’ve been gone, but now I’m back?

If anybody didn’t notice, I’ve been gone for over 5 days. I’ve been in New Mexico at the IAHA (International Arabian Horse Association) Youth Nationals. Both my 14 and 17 year olds, have horses that qualified to show. My youngest daughter named Nicole, had some bad luck, but she’s young and there’s always next year. My oldest daughter named Natalie took two TOP TENS in English Pleasure, which isn’t too shabby. That means that her horse is one of the Top Ten Arabians in the country.

One, in JTR (Junior To Ride), and the other, JOTR (Junior Owner To Ride). More important than the winning, is the preparation, dedication, commitment, responsibility, learning how to handle disappointment, which these people have to learn at a young age.

Enough; tooting my horn as a proud father. I’m back,

Ed Garcia

Re: I’ve been gone, but now I’m back? - Posted by Michael Gutmann

Posted by Michael Gutmann on July 30, 2001 at 14:10:41:

Congratulations,I know first hand how proud a father is of his children and in our case our daughters. Although I was not going to mention it however my question centers around my daughter. I’m a new investor and started attending investment meetings in January 2001, and not having any real estate or investing background I quickly realized how much I needed to know to succeed in this business, and I do intend to learn how to become a successful investor. I picked up a mentor in May 2001, and finally the question, how do I find motivated sellers, so I can buy and flip or lease option those properties and complete my first deal. I feel I should be doing more, but I just don’t know the best way to get started. By the way, my daugther lives in New York and I want to return there and be available for her. I believe Real Estate Investing is the best vehicle for getting there. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU ED…